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the florida department of law enforcement is going to look into it because this is voter fraud. this is voter registration fraud, and it actually also shows that we already have laws in place to prevent voter fraud and, in fact, the states going to go after them and that's good. >> give me a damage report on what would happen if these people got away with what they're doing. >> what would happen is really, you know, we know at the end of the day they would not be able to vote actually because, again, we have laws in place that would not permit them to vote. >> but they're showing up on registration lists and where they end up going. >> what would happen is actually this is a fact that, you know, technology allows for them to be knocked out, and that kind of fraud is not going to happen. but we have a problem with people trying to conjure up people that they want to vote republican, and important is this particular company had allegations before in 2004 about registering people and throwing away democratic registration forms. >> i want to get to you about the role of the rnc. nob
the florida department of law enforcement is going to look into it because this is voter fraud. this is voter registration fraud, and it actually also shows that we already have laws in place to prevent voter fraud and, in fact, the states going to go after them and that's good. >> give me a damage report on what would happen if these people got away with what they're doing. >> what would happen is really, you know, we know at the end of the day they would not be able to vote...
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probably the owners of a puppy mill who no longer want to breed the animals under a strict new state law. >> unfortunately there's a few of these really bad breeders out there who know they're not going to be able to pass inspections and trying to get out of the business fast. >> reporter: the animals are filthy, all adults, and may have lived under horrible conditions. >> unfortunately a lot of these puppy mill dogs their feet may have never touched the ground. >> reporter: volunteers will bathe the animals in the next few days before putting them up for adoption. >> it's really heartbreaking. but hopefully we can change their lot in life and give them a better future than their past has been. >> that's where ry rescuing a d is important. >>> one team hitting the ground running in virginia. >>> meningitis outbreak is spreading. another patient has died and there's a growing risk for people in our area. >>> a teenager vanished on the way to school. we'll report on why his parents think the disappearance is suspicious. >>> a new plan of attack against the algae invasion on the national ma
probably the owners of a puppy mill who no longer want to breed the animals under a strict new state law. >> unfortunately there's a few of these really bad breeders out there who know they're not going to be able to pass inspections and trying to get out of the business fast. >> reporter: the animals are filthy, all adults, and may have lived under horrible conditions. >> unfortunately a lot of these puppy mill dogs their feet may have never touched the ground. >>...
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let's assume a new set of laws is past. as quickly as they are passed election was figure out how to get around them. it's remarkably to campaign finance is a constant evolving issue. i think there's got to be mechanism, i work for to, million of politicians and my life. i believe there should be a mechanism for rank-and-file people should you be opposing some who so funny tempers a millionaire to be able to raise large amounts. i believe putting the money back have more accountability for the electorate and a much more integrity driven process an issue you're dreading to frame an election. sunday personally just. that's my from make money off these campaigns? absolutely. but from my perspective i think it's better for the country if we go back to that model. >> i don't know if i would necessary agree with that. look at what, i don't know if you saw the american crossroads add what super pacs actually to end with advertising does. a lot of people in here, remember the question in political science 101, should be elected rep
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that's already the law. and that doesn't help the millions of people out there with preexisting conditions. there's a reason why governor romney set up the plan he did in massachusetts. it wasn't a government-take over in health care. it was the largest expansion of private insurance. but what it does say is that insurance you have to take everybody. now, that also means you have more customers. but when governor says he'll replace it with something but can detail how it will be in fact replaced and the reason he set up the system he did in massachusetts because the reason there isn't a better way of dealing with preexisting condition problem. it reminds me of he said he's going to close dededuction and loopholes if are the tax plan. that's how it's going to be paid for. we don't know the details. he said that he's going replace dodd-frank, wall street reform, but we don't know exactly which one. he won't tell us. he now said he's going to brashing and ensure the good things in it are going to be in there, a
that's already the law. and that doesn't help the millions of people out there with preexisting conditions. there's a reason why governor romney set up the plan he did in massachusetts. it wasn't a government-take over in health care. it was the largest expansion of private insurance. but what it does say is that insurance you have to take everybody. now, that also means you have more customers. but when governor says he'll replace it with something but can detail how it will be in fact...
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laws were passed is they did not understand the implications on the state level. so many people were outraged with the trayvon martin killing, but the district attorney decided not to press charges was elected. most of the issues that affect people every day our local issues, but i believe that national organizations put so much emphasis on the top of the ticket they are ignoring vital state, gubernatorial, state, county commissioner, all those down-ballot races, and when you are talking about the military- industrial complex, those are district attorney's charging people, judge-citizens charging people, so speak to how you are educating your constituents to understand down-ballot races matter, and even more so, then the top of the ticket? >> it is also different states. if you complained about extremism in the republican party or the support by minorities of the democratic party, you self-gerrymander the country, counties, and districts. what is transpiring is you can make sure you -- but you are giving up on south carolina. that will not change blew any time soo
laws were passed is they did not understand the implications on the state level. so many people were outraged with the trayvon martin killing, but the district attorney decided not to press charges was elected. most of the issues that affect people every day our local issues, but i believe that national organizations put so much emphasis on the top of the ticket they are ignoring vital state, gubernatorial, state, county commissioner, all those down-ballot races, and when you are talking about...
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. >> when i just made that comment to bill, obviously, in a lighthearted way because super pacs, by law, are not allowed to coordinate with the campaigns. >>> the visit comes three wees s after the attack. the day after a newspaper reporter found sensitive documents laying around the site, one talking aut a need for increased security days before the attack. that's "out front" next. >>> once mitt romney and paul ryan take the stage we'll go there live. ♪ [ male announcer ] its lightweight construction makes it nimble... ♪ its road gripping performance makes it a cadillac. introducing the all-new cadillac xts. available with advanced haldex all-wheel drive. [ engine revving ] it's bringing the future forward. a short word that's a tall order. up your game. up the ante. and if you stumble, you get back up. up isn't easy, and we ought to know. we're in the business of up. everyday delta flies a quarter of million people while investing billions improving everything from booking to baggage claim. we're raising the bar on flying and tomorrow we will up it yet again. >>> our fifth story "
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numbers, but the governor showed that he understands policy and he understands how to make policy into law, talking about what he did in massachusetts. >> governor, i want to give you a chance to maybe take it back, did you really mean to call barack obama the president of the united states lazy? >> yes. i think -- i think you saw him admit it the night before when he delivered the pizzas. he said, you know, they're making me do this work. he didn't want to prepare for this debate. he's lazy and disengaged. >> i think that there certainly was a performance issue there and whether or not he was in his best perform last night, a lot of people are questioning that, just the one-on-one against mitt romney, mitt romney turned in a very strong performance. but i think to call the president lazy and disengaged is another question. >> whatever. >> we've been doing fact check on both sides. questioned whether the president was accurate when he said social security only needs tweaking, we've questioned a lot of issues. mitt romney, let me ask you a couple of questions about what he's had to say abou
numbers, but the governor showed that he understands policy and he understands how to make policy into law, talking about what he did in massachusetts. >> governor, i want to give you a chance to maybe take it back, did you really mean to call barack obama the president of the united states lazy? >> yes. i think -- i think you saw him admit it the night before when he delivered the pizzas. he said, you know, they're making me do this work. he didn't want to prepare for this debate....
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but that's already the law. and that doesn't help the millions of people out there with preexisting conditions. there's a reason why governor romney set up the plan that he did in massachusetts. it wasn't a government takeover of health care. it was the largest expansion of private insurance. but what it does say is that insurers, you've got to take everybody. now, that also means you've got more customers. but when governor romney says that he'll replace it with something, but can't detail how it will be in fact replaced, and the reason he set up the system he did in massachusetts was because there isn't a better way of dealing with the preexisting conditions problem. it just reminds me of, he says he's going to close deductions and loopholes for his tax plan. that's how it's going to be paid for. but we don't know the details. he says he's going to replace dodd-frank, wall street reform, but we don't know exactly which ones. he won't tell us. he now says he's going to replace obamacare and ensure that all the
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that's explicitly prohibited in the law. but let's go back to what governor romney indicated, that under his plan, he would be able to cover people with pre- existing conditions. that isn't what your plan does. what your plan does is to duplicate what's already the law, which is that if you are out of health insurance for three months, then you can end up in getting continuous coverage and an insurance company can deny you if it's been under 90 days. -- cannot deny you if it's been under 90 days. but that's already the law, and that doesn't help them and the people out there with preexisting editions. -- the millions of people out there with preexisting conditions. there's a reason why governor romney set up the plan he did in massachusetts. it wasn't a government takeover of health care. it was the largest expansion of private insurance. but what it does say is that, insurers, you've got to take everybody. that also means you've got more customers. but when governor romney says he'll replace it with something but cannot det
that's explicitly prohibited in the law. but let's go back to what governor romney indicated, that under his plan, he would be able to cover people with pre- existing conditions. that isn't what your plan does. what your plan does is to duplicate what's already the law, which is that if you are out of health insurance for three months, then you can end up in getting continuous coverage and an insurance company can deny you if it's been under 90 days. -- cannot deny you if it's been under 90...
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he said that he doesn't even know that there's such laws that encourage outsourcing, never heard of them. he said if it's true, he must need a new accountant. we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney, because he seems to be doing just fine with his current accountant. thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. it's about time. >> that guy's a winner. mitt romney joining paul ryan this evening in my home state of virginia, but which mitt will show up? the mitt who won the debate by putting the president on the defensive, spoke directly to voters and there was a moment or two of humor. will we see the same mitt on the trail for the past 16 months. you be the judge. here he is stopping by a colorado cpac meeting before leaving denver. >> last night i thought was a great fuopportunity for the american people to see two different visions for the country. i think it was helpful to be able to describe those visions. i saw the president's vision as trickle-down government, and i don't think that's what america believes in. >> all right. let's put it through the spin cy
he said that he doesn't even know that there's such laws that encourage outsourcing, never heard of them. he said if it's true, he must need a new accountant. we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney, because he seems to be doing just fine with his current accountant. thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. it's about time. >> that guy's a winner. mitt romney joining paul ryan this evening in my home state of virginia, but which mitt will show up? the mitt...
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but that's already the law. and that doesn't help the millions of people out there with preexisting conditions. there's a reason why governor romney set up the plan that he did in massachusetts. it wasn't a government takeover of health care. it was the largest expansion of private insurance. but what it does say is, insurers, you've got to take everybody. now, that also means that you've got more customers. but when governor romney says that he'll replace it with something but can't detail how it will be, in fact, replaced, and the reason he set up the system he did in massachusetts is because there isn't a better way of dealing with the preexisting conditions problem. it just reminds me he says he's going to close deductions and loopholes for his tax plan. that's how it's going to be paid for, but we don't know the details. he says that he's going to replace dodd-frank, wall street reform, but we don't know exactly which ones. he won't tell us. he now says he's going to replace obama care and assure that all t
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it's against the law. >> want to call a cop? >> now ed asner returned to broadway in a play called "grace" playing a plan struggling with regret but never hat a loss for words. >> are you a jesus freak? >> well, we are not jesus freaks. >> we are both committed christians. >> oh, i've got some news for you. >> all right. >> one, there is no jesus. >> really? >> two. there's no god. >> interesting. >> three. mind your own business and everything works out. >> it officially opens tonight, right? are you having a good time over there with paul rudd and the gang? >> it's a wonderful creative process. i'm with three great actors, having been directed by a great director, written by a great playwright. >> so you're a pig in mud. >> you know the feeling? >> yes, i do. i'm just right up the street. we are at the neil simon, but we are here to talk about you right now. >> you are an exterminator. >> i'm german. >> explain your character. >> it's the little guys. >> tell bus your character a little bit. >> well, he has raised in a family
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laws. there is a linkage with the super pacs, because you're seeing people funding these but also the initiative to get these voter i.d. laws passed. my question is twofold. is this pretty blatant -- this is what republican leaders are saying, attempt up boater disenfranchisement and explicit strategy of the republicans that is emerging as something that we're going to see in future elections? just to challenge you, how do you justify it? >> i will take that. i do not know anyone has said that. >> they are saying they do not want certain people to vote. i do not understand how you can justify that. >> i do not know they are saying that. i will give my response here is what happens. i have seen firsthand the voter fraud. it is probably not as rampant as a lot of people would have you believe, just like the threats on republicans tried to disenfranchise people as what you are trying to see. what you have here is a tug between both sides, and both sides think the other side is doing some good
laws. there is a linkage with the super pacs, because you're seeing people funding these but also the initiative to get these voter i.d. laws passed. my question is twofold. is this pretty blatant -- this is what republican leaders are saying, attempt up boater disenfranchisement and explicit strategy of the republicans that is emerging as something that we're going to see in future elections? just to challenge you, how do you justify it? >> i will take that. i do not know anyone has said...
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it, why the president spent so much time in the middle of a recession focusing on getting his health law passed. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table, and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. >> we did work on this, alongside working on jobs, because this is part of making sure that middle class families are secure in this country. >> reporter: a couple of the big instant overnight polls that we've seen, undecided voters and registered voters say mitt romney won this debate. they've got two more coming up, the first in a couple of weeks. >>> and some local governors are weighing in on last night's debate as well. maryland governor martin o'malley told msnbc's lawrence o'donnell that romney was not specific enough on the issues that matter most to undecided voters. >> i think what mitt romney really needed tonight was a big game changer. he needed the address the observation that
it, why the president spent so much time in the middle of a recession focusing on getting his health law passed. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table, and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. >> we did work on this, alongside working on jobs, because this is part of making...
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romney described the dodd frank reform law as the biggest kiss to new york banks i have ever seen. you have worked with some of those banks. so was it? or is that the biggest lie mr. romney told last night? >> as george kos stanza says, it's not a lie if you believe it. it's one of the most cynical comments we heard last night because i don't think i have ever heard mitt romney actually defend regulation. he actually said i'm going to scrap dodd/frank and put in place new regulations, presumably tougher regulations. if this is a kiss, he wants tougher regulations. let's stipulate for a moment that most of wall street is already in mitt romney's pocket, already going to vote for him, that's what i hear. i don't know many people on wall street who aren't already supporters of him. now he throws that hail mary pass at the last minute and says now i'm going to be critical of dodd/frank and critical of the regulation and ask for more regulation and also was going to cut everybody's taxes 20%. now i'm saying, no, no, no we're not doing that anymore. we're going to raise people's taxes. h
romney described the dodd frank reform law as the biggest kiss to new york banks i have ever seen. you have worked with some of those banks. so was it? or is that the biggest lie mr. romney told last night? >> as george kos stanza says, it's not a lie if you believe it. it's one of the most cynical comments we heard last night because i don't think i have ever heard mitt romney actually defend regulation. he actually said i'm going to scrap dodd/frank and put in place new regulations,...
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romney says he has never heard of that law before. i think that is why the president looked so incredulous in terms of his response. there are incentives to take jobs out of the country. laypeople like me even know that. that is another part of him being disingenuous where he was way off the mark. host: any response to that? caller: the bible says this. if a nation will please got a, everything turns out right. all you have to do is please god. barack obama has not pleased god. he is involved in the homosexuality. he gave money for abortions. god and everything we have. he owns it all. he controls at all. all we have to do is please god and everything will turn out good. host: thank you for participating this morning. we appreciate it. lead editorial in "the washington times" -- now, in just a minute we are going to switch of the phone lines a little bit as we go. in just a minute we will change them. we will take two more calls. we will talk to linda from texas and carl from kansas. after that we want to hear from swing state voters
romney says he has never heard of that law before. i think that is why the president looked so incredulous in terms of his response. there are incentives to take jobs out of the country. laypeople like me even know that. that is another part of him being disingenuous where he was way off the mark. host: any response to that? caller: the bible says this. if a nation will please got a, everything turns out right. all you have to do is please god. barack obama has not pleased god. he is involved...
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. >> reporter: the debate later turned to the president's health care law which romney says he will get rid of if elected. >> it cuts $716 billion from medicare to pay for it. i want to put that money back in medicare. it has killed jobs. >> reporter: but the president tried to bring it back to romney's own health care law which he says is quite similar. >> governor romney did a good thing working with democrats in the state to set up what is essentially the identical model. it hasn't destroyed jobs. >> reporter: there were few fireworks and there were even fewer surprises. both candidates were deliberate going through their policy points. rob, paula, at times that made it seem look they were more concerned with getting through their checklist than really connecting with voters watching at home. >> all right, karen. a moment when they were talking what programs would be cut. all of a sudden you heard sesame street, big bird, big bird started trending. tell us what happened? >> oh, yeah, don't let your kids hear this one. big bird is apparently on the chopping block in a mitt romney budg
. >> reporter: the debate later turned to the president's health care law which romney says he will get rid of if elected. >> it cuts $716 billion from medicare to pay for it. i want to put that money back in medicare. it has killed jobs. >> reporter: but the president tried to bring it back to romney's own health care law which he says is quite similar. >> governor romney did a good thing working with democrats in the state to set up what is essentially the identical...
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to determine the fraud laws that drives the guidelines. and one of the things that fdasia did was direct a sense, u.s. sentencing commission to do a review of the sentencing guidelines, regarding counterfeit drug offenses. so i think we may see some increases there. there may be some enhancements that were not there before. so i'm not sure if -- >> it does indeed. thank you so much. why don't we open it up. we will go here and maybe -- is there another one somewhere? >> the hi. dr. rogers. there's been, there's been at least one federal case that both oci and doj where part of, we say, that recently concluded with guilty pleas were a drug pedigrees were involved in some way. i'm referring here to the lab in your cargo theft a few years ago, and then it was reintroduced into the legitimate supply chain. and at least one person, two people actually pled guilty to that, recently sentenced. i'm hoping now that that is concluded if you could come and give us an idea how important that pedigree was, if at all in the investigation, prosecuting an
to determine the fraud laws that drives the guidelines. and one of the things that fdasia did was direct a sense, u.s. sentencing commission to do a review of the sentencing guidelines, regarding counterfeit drug offenses. so i think we may see some increases there. there may be some enhancements that were not there before. so i'm not sure if -- >> it does indeed. thank you so much. why don't we open it up. we will go here and maybe -- is there another one somewhere? >> the hi. dr....
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to stand by turkey and urges the syrian regime to put an end to flagrant violations of international law. there is a charter for collective action when one member is attacked. what are the chances that nato will get involved here? >> reporter: very slim right now. when you say nato besides the uk and france who have limited capacity to help here, we're talking about america. until the next election is passed and until the next administration wants to get involved in this, we're not going to see any major nato intervention. the backing is firm. that will help bolster turkey's case and push the military back to prevent this thing from happening ever again. but we're really talking about a potential of the future over know fly zone, maybe in months time if nato decides to step forward d seize turkey once again attacked by the syrians. but for now this is very much a rhetorical response and we're going to be talking weeks and months of continued aggression by the syrians as the turkish will see it, until you see any game change like that. >> nick, thank you very much. >>> update on a troubli
to stand by turkey and urges the syrian regime to put an end to flagrant violations of international law. there is a charter for collective action when one member is attacked. what are the chances that nato will get involved here? >> reporter: very slim right now. when you say nato besides the uk and france who have limited capacity to help here, we're talking about america. until the next election is passed and until the next administration wants to get involved in this, we're not going...
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agree with doug, he really hit obama hard on obamacare and medicare pointing out how the obamacare law december mates medicare, and medicare advantage as well which is also a very popular program because it is partly private. i think what you'll see coming up in the next couple of weeks, but certainly in the vice presidental debate, martha, as you mentioned, is that paul ryan is this is his signature issue, and the point romney was making, the point ryan is going to make is look, younger voters, sort of my generation and younger -rpb , we all recognize that medicare and all of these other programs are not going to be here for us unless there is serious reform. what romney and ryan want to do is save these programs for the younger voters. what romney also did very effectively, is he understands, and ryan updzs ver understands very well that older voters have to understand that nothing will change for them. in the future they will be taken care of but younger voters will have the option of medicare or the premium support option to choose from. that is an argument they've been making and
agree with doug, he really hit obama hard on obamacare and medicare pointing out how the obamacare law december mates medicare, and medicare advantage as well which is also a very popular program because it is partly private. i think what you'll see coming up in the next couple of weeks, but certainly in the vice presidental debate, martha, as you mentioned, is that paul ryan is this is his signature issue, and the point romney was making, the point ryan is going to make is look, younger...
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doesn't obama know -- i mean suppression laws are going on. we're out here fighting for him. >> bill: voter suppression. never mentioned that. >> caller: i.d. laws. we're fighting on the ground for him and he comes not ready to play. he should have said a b c d. where was the boxing going on? >> bill: you know, he knows his stuff. you know he knows this stuff. you know he was frustrated last night. i don't know why he didn't -- maybe he felt he couldn't engage but you know, i thought he had to. we wanted him to. >> caller: he was campaigning too much. maybe he needed three days to lay down and relax. maybe he's been doing too much. >> bill: i don't know. but they spent two days in henderson, nevada with john kerry preparing for this debate. i guess -- as i said before the break, maybe hiring john kerry as his debate coach was the first mistake. lee in los angeles. what do you say? >> caller: hi, bill press. i've been with you here in california. >> bill: we had some good days out there lee. >> caller: we did. you know what, bill? i didn't unde
doesn't obama know -- i mean suppression laws are going on. we're out here fighting for him. >> bill: voter suppression. never mentioned that. >> caller: i.d. laws. we're fighting on the ground for him and he comes not ready to play. he should have said a b c d. where was the boxing going on? >> bill: you know, he knows his stuff. you know he knows this stuff. you know he was frustrated last night. i don't know why he didn't -- maybe he felt he couldn't engage but you know, i...
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but the guy on stage last night, he said that he doesn't even know that there's such laws that encourage outsourcing. never heard of them. never heard of them. never heard of tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. he said that if it's true, he must need a new accountant. now, we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney because he seems to be doing just fine with his current account. so you see, the man on stage last night, he does not want to be held accountable for the real mitt romney's decisions and what he's been saying for the last year. and that's because he knows full well that we don't want what he's been selling for the last year. >> president obama at that rally in denver earlier today. very, very different from what we saw in the debate last night. watch this. >> the last point i'd make before -- >> two minutes is up, sir. >> i think i had five seconds before you interrupted me was -- the irony is that we've seen this model work really well in massachusetts. >> all right. moments like that may have contributed to what so many people out there see as the preside
but the guy on stage last night, he said that he doesn't even know that there's such laws that encourage outsourcing. never heard of them. never heard of them. never heard of tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. he said that if it's true, he must need a new accountant. now, we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney because he seems to be doing just fine with his current account. so you see, the man on stage last night, he does not want to be held accountable for the real...
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>> reporter: but law enforcement say wednesday's incident is no laughing matter. >> it's a very dangerous thing to do. police show up and they have a -- they believe they have a bad guy. and someone gets shot. >> reporter: unlike "punk'd" these are real cops with real bullets. a volatile situation where someone could easily get hurt. elizabeth. >> no kidding. david, thank you so much. >>> now, to an update on a story we brought you yesterday on "good morning america." local tv anchor jennifer livingston is fighting back after a viewer criticized her weight. now, the man behind that hurtful e-mail is speaking out. and he is not backing down. jennifer has received support from our own abc station, wxow in lacrosse, wisconsin. and abc's linsey davis has more on the story. >> reporter: it was the e-mail that sparked national outrage. >> it reads as follows. surely, you don't consider yourself a suitable example for this community's young people, girls in particular. >> reporter: and this morning, the man behind it finally has a face, with two bulging biceps to match. his name is kenneth kraus
>> reporter: but law enforcement say wednesday's incident is no laughing matter. >> it's a very dangerous thing to do. police show up and they have a -- they believe they have a bad guy. and someone gets shot. >> reporter: unlike "punk'd" these are real cops with real bullets. a volatile situation where someone could easily get hurt. elizabeth. >> no kidding. david, thank you so much. >>> now, to an update on a story we brought you yesterday on...
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. >> the debate later turned to the president's health care law which romney says he will get rid of if elected. >> it cut $716 billion from medicare to pay for it. i want to put the money back in medicare. it has killed jobs. >> reporter: but the president tried to bring it back to romney's own health care law which he says is quite similar. >> governor romney did a good thing, working with democrats in the state to set up what is essentially the identical model. it hasn't destroyed jobs. >> reporter: there were a few fireworks. and fewer surprises. the candidates were very deliberate outlining their bullet points on specific policies, but at the same time, neither of them really went after each other on them. it was more like they were trying to go through a checklist. not really connecting with the voters. rob, paula. >> all right. now, obviously, the president's campaign is going to spin this. what will we be hearing from them? >> well, they were trying to focus on mitt romney, the word you kept hearing from the president's surrogates was mitt romney was testy and that he didn't
. >> the debate later turned to the president's health care law which romney says he will get rid of if elected. >> it cut $716 billion from medicare to pay for it. i want to put the money back in medicare. it has killed jobs. >> reporter: but the president tried to bring it back to romney's own health care law which he says is quite similar. >> governor romney did a good thing, working with democrats in the state to set up what is essentially the identical model. it...